Why this threat of everlasting punishment? Why not just live a good life without all this believing bullshit? Explain how this Jesus character had to go through a crucifixion to save me, because a fictional Adam ate from the tree of knowledge because a talking snake told him to do so? What is love, Tommy? If you are the end result of random mutations and evolution then love is nothing more than chemical reactions on your brain. The quality of being just; fairness. The principle of moral rightness; equity.
Conformity to moral rightness in action or attitude; righteousness. Sending someone to everlasting punishment is neither fair nor equitable. Do you have a beloved friend or family member who is an atheist? Would you send them to everlasting punishment? Also, how much fun will heaven be knowing that all your atheist and Mormon friends are suffering for all eternity with no chance of redemption while you are basking in glory.
Does it make you feel more special? More chosen? While the party is happening in the mansion upstairs, the torture chamber is on down below and the archangel Michael is selling tickets so you, too, can watch your ex-loved ones be skinned alive, over and over and over again…! One of the key things that demonstrated for me the absurdity of all this is that we all, Christian and non-Christian alike, express horror at what the Nazis did to the Jews, and yet that will pale in comparison to what God is going to do them.
By whose standard, the standards of man or God? If Hitler would appear before you fur judgement, what would be a fair sentence? We have sinned against the highest authority in the cosmos. Even our own system of justice recognizes the severity of crimes against authority. Punches the eternal, holy and good God that gave him life and sustains his every breath. There is literally and justly hell to pay. Hitler was a Christian. What punishment he deserves IMO and what punishment he would get under Christian theology are not within shouting distance of each other.
Everlasting punishment for finite sins is neither fair nor equitable. Why or why not? Judges in democracies receive their power and authority through the people. Spirits, lunar deities and even minor war gods like Yahweh are typically not dependent on anything for their authority. So yeah, still in error. I hear you. Any god that would punish finite crimes with everlasting torment is a heartless bastard. Markus R, are we talking about the same God who created evil, drowned everything on earth but one family, incinerated cities, killed the first born of everything in Egypt, wants to be called Jealous, loves the smell of burning flesh, needs you to cut the end of your dick off, hates mixed fabrics and shell fish, condones slavery and rape and….
When somebody wants to sell you something, do you buy no questions asked? I think it is best to investigate things first. You should take a critical look at the stuff you are pushing. Paul loved to talk about Jesus, though. Below is everything he tells us. Mormons will tell you the same thing when you raise problems with the BOM.
And Muslims with the Koran. Share this evidence with us and make it Christianity-specific, not something vague that could apply to any god. Speaking of passover lambs. Take a look at this. I think that is just an analogous feature noticed a century later. I think the idea of crucifixion is from Paul in Galatians I think the Jerusalem Christians denied that Jesus was crucified. Galatians 12 It is those who want to make a good showing in the flesh that try to compel you to be circumcised — only that they may not be persecuted for the cross of Christ.
Throughout Galatians, Paul railed against the circumcision faction, which he identifies James as a leader of and Cephas kowtowing to. I was more thinking along the lines that The Visualizations of the crucified lamb would have been well known to those writing The New Testament. Who knows what sorts of symbolism or ceremonies surrounded the act of hanging the lambs. It was after all a religious ceremony and sacrifice. I think idea of crucifixion was established by Paul and Mark.
It is more of a big deal in the gospels which came later. Of course if you had any knowledge of ancient literature you would be astounded by the reliability of what exists. Am I correct? There are more inconsistencies in the New Testament manuscripts that we have than there are words in the New Testament. I like Bible studies but I restrict them to only with fellow believers. Your problem with the Bible is not the inconsistancies.
Most people learned that by the time they are 10 years old. Not you though…nope. Of course it can. It just requires equivocation of the meanings of the symbols. It is true for larger values of 2 or a smaller value of 5. No, I have no problem with the inconsistencies. I find it amazing that we have still have most of the writings the NT authors used to create their fictions and fantasies. I think Mark is a fantastic writer. He melds Old Testament and Apocrypha into the popular and classic Greek literature.
When Telemauchus began to search for his father, he visited some kings who might give insight where to look. He travel on foot to one where there was a feast and he sailed to the other, and so does Jesus. One of the feast had nine ranks of so Mark rounded up for one meal and down for the other. When Jesus is on trial, Peter is outside. The Gospel of Mark is really fascinating when you read it as fiction and to recognize the literature of the day.
Believing it is like believing the Three Bears. Not all are meant to understand. Nobody gives to hell for not believing. The 10 Commandments. How do you stack up? Ever told a lie? Ever stolen anything? Ever looked at a woman with lust? And those are just 4 of the God has written these laws upon the human conscience. You know in your heart they are wrong. You are lying and you deserve hell for lying…except your believe the right thoughts so you will be ok.
Otto, one day you will stand in front of Jesus Christ. You will be judged according to your righteousness or his righteousness. If you choose to stand in your own righteousness, please know that every thought and action in your life is known to him. Every lie. Every thing you ever stole. It is for those sins that you will be sent into eternal and everlasting punishment. And that same word tells us that all who repent and trust in Christ will be forgiven and receive eternal life. Please consider this. Your religion is a joke, I take it no more seriously than Scientology.
You are part of a cult and you spread poison and lies. I also find it interesting that after I show that you contradicted yourself and your religion you completely ignored it. Go sell your snake oil somewhere else Mr. Con Man. Please consider that. You have a wild and hateful imagination. If you ever find yourself actually believing all that nonsense affects other people and their real lives, please get some mental health help. And you wonder why your arguments fail? Just by magic? You are talking to an awful lot of ex-christians who have heard this nonsense and eventually realized there is no reason whatsoever to believe it.
You are either too indoctrinated to think or such an unwilling thinker that indoctrination is the most comfortable thing that could ever have happened to you.. I oringinally resounded precisely in topic contradictions in the Bible. As for support, I have answered consistently from my worldview and the Bible remember it is the topic. You posture yourself as the judge of truth as do others here, but not one has offered a foundation for truth in their worldview other than their subjective opinion. Pretend all you like. Indeed, when negative or adverse outcomes are the explicit result of a decision, not mentioning them is insincere and absurd.
Be a shame if anything happened to it. What the shout is depends on whether the cliff is real or a figment of the imagination of the person shouting. We have read the same book you have and realize it is mostly fiction. We are trying to make you turn around so you can return to reality. Forget it. I guess you missed John For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him emphasis mine shall not perish but have eternal life.
Moses smashed the tablets and went to get another set. Read Exodus 34 for the actual Ten Commandments. That is correct. And Moses read from those new tablets in Deuteronomy 5. How are you stacking up by those, Bob. I fail miserably and I need a savior. Yeah, in Gnosticism. But tell me more about this enormous gap in my knowledge of ancient literature. Yeah, I know. Unimportant—it still sucks. If your god thingy is perfectly good and love is one of his attributes, then love must be good.
If the god thingy fails at loving, then it is not perfectly good. There is nothing more evil than torturing someone for long periods of time, except for doing it to billions of people. Therefore, your concept of God is evil which cannot be described as perfectly good. I am trying to think of a scenario where I would condone creating a place where my spaniel would yelp, catch fire, and tremble forever the next time he jumps into the front seat of my car.
We have violated his very character and nature. And that is a very serious act. A potter can do what he wants with a pot but it is irrational for the potter to blame the pot and to punish it for how it is made. Your rhetorical question does not address the question I asked. This is one of the things that makes absolutely no sense. None of us asked to be created.
God supposedly is omniscient, which means that he created us knowing that he was creating the vast majority of mankind for eternal torment. He dragged people into eternal existence, judges them for a blink of an eye moment in time only to condemn them to eternal torment. Markus throws around attributes of God like love, justice, perfectly good and yet these things are the exact opposite. The story simply makes no sense. The emperor has no clothes. I mean, at least come up with something believable, right?
Your god is a sadistic, vindictive asshole if he even thinks about punishing us for eternity. It only matters that the judge is real and has absolute authority. God is real and he has spoken. It is all about how gullible the defendant is about the judge. My hope is that I might cause one reader to see the light. Hell is hot and eternity is long.
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I have no desire for you to spend eternity there, Greg. The why is their punishments for blasphemy? Kind of thin skinned. We all realised that the light you preach was very dim indeed, in comparison. Ignorant, could you be wrong about that? What is your source of absolute truth? Of course. Could you be wrong? Do you still believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus? If not, why not? How do you know you are not wrong? What method do you use to verify yuou are not wrong? By the same token El, Asherah, Baal, and other deities of the Semitic pantheon, who can be recognized in the Bible, are real too.
How does an imaginary, fictitious, non-existent critter have anything to do with reality? You have to show your mythical, make-believe, hypothetical god exists before you can claim any attributes for it. Show me that your god exists. They are expected to rule justly, fairly, equitably. Condemning someone who punches the president in the nose to torture for the rest of their life would not be considered just, fair or equitable. A ruler might have absolute authority, but one who would do such things is not considered good, loving or just.
They are considered a tyrant. Infinite punishment for finite sins is not the action of a good, loving and just God; it is the action of a tyrant. The story makes no sense. The pieces of the story have to make sense if you want people to believe it. Your god is absolutely powerless outside your own imagination. Is God so sensitive? So petty? The Christian god is an insecure narcissist. According to the propaganda he needs to be continually told how great he is and otherwise have his ego stroked or else he pouts and goes into smiting mode.
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. The sarcasm must not have been evident. Am I supposed to be impressed with accusations of thought crimes? Try again, this time using logic and evidence instead of anti-humanist propaganda. No, the sarcasm was not evident. Just a plain Biblical quote without other commentary is a common response Christians use when faced with evidence that their god is an asshole. Blood sacrifice is an obsolete technology. Remember phone books and VCRs? Obsolete too! You make a distinction between punishing and harming.
I know this because natural catastrophes the ones that insurance policies call acts of god harm countless creatures. Like us humans do all the time. Why the sacrifice needed? Why the blood shed? And oh what a sacrifice if you get to come back to life in less than 48 hours. Just forgive them all? Would that be justice? People have limited resources and limited life spans but they can get over issues and forgive a lot better than your god thingy in many cases.
The God of the Bible story drowned the world? Would you forgive him? Making him and others like Stalin pay for the countless deaths and suffering from the POV of each victim and preventing them of going insane. Once ended, if they beg pardon pardoning them in return. Also… you asked what to do with Hitler. I would have stopped him. Punishing him after the fact does nothing for the victims. Stopping him would have. Any atheist would invent a hell far more just than what your asshole of a god created. You know, you can just stop, right? I was an atheist once. Been there and got the T-Shirt. It comes and goes with circumstances.
Indeed, Christians can expect to suffer in this life. What God does promise is peace with God and eternal life. The OT makes clear that God is an asshole. You must clear away that obstacle first. Talking to you is like shooting fish in a barrel. Hairy, you seem to have no problem making s moral judgement about God. Where do you get moral truth from? Jesus Christ willingly gave himself as a sacrifice. He is God, just as is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
In the cross of Christ we see how serious are sines are to a holy God, his love and mercy, and his justice. So rather than addressing the point I was obviously making you just spit out your religious creed like a doll with a pull string. Jesus could have just as easily given himself as a sacrifice without requiring belief in him.
What a failure! Why would a god thingy put requirements on forgiveness that only gullible people would accept? He also lets the Serpent infiltrate into the Garden and the punishment for eating the damned fruit falls into Adam and Eve when God has a lot of responsability for the mess.
Fast forward. God has to sacrifice his son to fix a mess caused by Him and that could have been resolved by other means. Not a bad summary of some of the details, Alec. God does all this to glorify himself through the redemption of a fallen creation. Yup, in the end we are lowly creatures of rebellion who deserve to be squashed like bugs, but God displays his goodness by suffering himself for those that he chose in the very beginning to save.
We are fragile, fallen creatures that live 80 years or so. The average human in history has had a miserable existence. We know of God. All of us. Even if we deny it his laws are written into our conscience. We knowingly break those laws. So we are responsible. Our prominent sin is to reject the God that is and create one in our own image.
Why would that be so? Are you your own moral authority? I told you more than once that I cannot solve the solipsism problem and neither can you. I can only react to the reality that is presented to me and work out what hurts and what feels good in that perceived reality. Things we like are good. Those are descriptive words in the language I know that is used in this perceived reality.
That is pathologically sadistic. A person who helps old ladies cross the street but tortures children to death in his basement for fun is not a good person despite outward appearances. You seem to have no difficulty assessing what is good and evil. But based upon what source of truth? In your worldview we are just a cosmic accident. So if I understand what you are saying, your feelings determine your morality?
What if I feel differently? Who is right and who is wrong? My senses and others senses which can apparently be enhanced by technology. Senses honed by evolution would be reliable enough. If they were totally unreliable, they would not have been beneficial and would be selected against as a waste of energy. I am right according to my morality and you are right according to your morality. If it is something that we both feel is worth fighting over, we would have to fight. If not, we respect one another and move on. There is no absolute or objective morality.
If there was an objective morality, you could just show how you got the knowledge. If you say you got it by pretending you know what an imaginary thingy says is objective morality, you will be laughed at. Picking things out of your imagination about things you cannot perceive by your senses is far less reliable than understanding things through your senses.
If our senses are such a poor predictor of reality I propose a test. We stand at the edge of a busy highway and on the count of three we each do our best to cross the road. I can use my powers of observation and can walk down to the corner and hit crosswalk button which may or may not be imaginary and wait for the possibly imaginary lights to change and stop the potentially imaginary cars before I head across.
And you can use your prayers and trust in a potentially real God to guide you safely to the other side. We carefully craft an illusion of God the surrounds us and comforts us, but when it comes right down to it, we know. People often disagree on what is right or wrong. Even self-proclaimed Christians all claiming the same source have differing opinions on right and wrong. We decide who is wrong or right through things like social influence, debate, rules and laws. Not everyone always agrees.
Asking questions so no one sees that the glaring question remains yours to answer? Yeah, you totally pulled off that rhetorical trick. Your undefended claim of objective morality is sitting there like a stinky turd. You going to take care of it? Upon what do you base this statement? Man stealing was punishable by death. The Bible makes a clear distinction between slave bought with money, indentured servants, and hired hands.
Genesis NRSV 12 Throughout your generations every male among you shall be circumcised when he is eight days old, including the slave born in your house and the one bought with your money from any foreigner who is not of your offspring. So shall my covenant be in your flesh an everlasting covenant. Exodus NRSV 44 but any slave who has been purchased may eat of it after he has been circumcised; 45 no bound or hired servant may eat of it. Israelite indentured servants were not to be treated harshly but those bought with money could be.
Leviticus 44 As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness. Exodus 2 When you buy a male Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, but in the seventh he shall go out a free person, without debt. He shall be brought to the door or the doorpost; and his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him for life. Slaves could be beaten. Exodus 20 When a slaveowner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished.
NO, rather they are men. NO, comrades. NO, they are unpretentious friends. NO, they are our fellow-slaves, if one reflects that Fortune has equal rights over slaves and free men alike. That is why I smile at those who think it degrading for a man to dine with his slave. But why should they think it degrading? It is only purse-proud etiquette… All night long they must stand about hungry and dumb… They are not enemies when we acquire them; we make them enemies… This is the kernel of my advice: Treat your inferiors as you would be treated by your betters.
The bible has YawehJesus ordering the enslavement of people…including virgins as sex slaves, raped. No, American slavery and biblical slavery were pretty much identical. Exodus NASB : 16He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death. Given that the Hebrews were instructed in Leviticus to obtain their slaves from the people around them, it is evident that this injunction to not abduct people referred to Hebrews and not non-Hebrews.
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Obtaining and selling non-Hebrews was evidently not a problem. Deuteronomy specifies that only the abduction of Hebrews to enslave them is a crime. And with that revelation, became stories and writings, ultimately culminating into a flawed contradictory-filled book, claiming authority over the masses and promising the defectors an eternity of flame-filled existence?
Sorry, but some of us completed 2nd grade and on the way learned that the fraudulent, gift-giving St. Nicholas was really just Mom and Dad. If something is eternal and almighty, it could create whatever it wanted. The whole thing is stupid. Man is fallen and sinful. The last thing we want is to be held acciuntabke for our sins.
God is holy and perfect in all his ways. As such, he glorified himself. God has chosen to glorify himself by the redemption of fallen man. Yeah, that smarts a bit. Go outside tonight and gaze at the billions of stars and consider what is man. Your god is supposed to be all powerful, and all perfect, and all loving. So, why would that god need to be glorified?
Yes, I go out and stare at the stars quite regularly. My human brain can barely comprehend it all. So what? Get a grip. Hang in there, Pofarmer for you are getting warmer. The Bible says that God spoke this universe into existence. Think of that for a moment—God is a being that powerful and amazing. Indeed, reality consists only of God and his creation. Before creation existed, only God existed. Outside of time. He is fully and completely satisfied in himself.
He needs nothing else, including our worship. For a moment, consider beauty—absolute and perfect beauty. Or any other transcendental quality such as goodness or virtue. Such things are praiseworthy. That is, they are in and if themselves worthy of praise. God is that. Now here is what should truly blow our minds—Hid was pleased to create man in his own likeness—having a portion of his qualities. That makes mankind if incredible worth and we should rightly praise him. Fail means that it, not to mention an entity able to create something as arcane and ununderstarable as quantum mechanics plus whatever is hiding behind them quantum gravity theories plus an Universe as big as this one, maybe even infinite, would be an entity far beyond our understanding and that would certainly not behave as the typical deity or three thousand years ago, nor would take its sight on an insignificant people of cattle herders inhabiting a small part of an small planet… blah, blah.
Of course his book instead of being a work that would transmit our insignificance and at least scraps of that knowledge has all the signs of being an human creation of a time when very little was known of the Universe, with all that entails. As with so many religious people with seemingly little or not scientific knowledge, you cannot grasp the real significance of all the atributes you give to him. Where is absolute beauty? I can admire a sunset for its beauty. Knowing how the refractions, reflections, and shadows work makes it all the more interesting.
But if I was going to credit an omnipotent being with it, I would be disappointed by the grandest sunset. Is that the best omnipotence can manage? And you are assuming God…not just any God, but a specific God…one that you are trying to support with nonsense no one here thinks is rational. You are preaching a loada unsupported ballix. Give it up already, we are laughing at you at this point. Yup, in the end we are lowly creatures of rebellion who deserve to be squashed like bugs, but God displays his goodness by suffering himself for those that he chose in the very beginning to save instead of looking for better ways to resolve the mess he created in the first time.
The average human in history has had a miserable existence until scientific advancements has improved it. The bad news is that he is good a sadistic Bronze Age deity. Very good sadistic Bronze Age deity. So good sadistic that he will not tolerate evil and will punish His creations for all eternity and destroy the world ignoring what he said at first instead of fixing what He caused.
Our prominent sin is to reject the God that is and create one in our own image like the Judeo-Christian God, who we think that is. Or better, ask Him to bring an update, better, book and not that compendium of Bronze Age leyends and historied badly plagiarized from Judaism, where the original sin does not exist, and that does not make sense from your view.
The guy dies and pops back to life in a day and a half? Big deal. You can have either a miracle resurrection or a sacrifice being dead. Christian hilariously think that they can have both. Yet your conscience tells you otherwise. For that reason you have to suppress the truth Romans 1. Quoting a holy book that I think is bullshit is not an argument.
Bob, if I could prove to your satisfaction that the God of the Bible existed, would you worship him? You hate him because you love your sin. Why would I worship that shithead? God is no different. Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge of things without parallel.
The strength of my belief in things is pretty much parallel to the strength of the evidence presented to me, not my desire to believe or disbelieve. For those of you who are struggling with your faith, take note of this tactic. You know what you are going through and how difficult your struggle is. You know that this is a lie. This is the kind of tactic they will resort to in order to keep you in the fold. All of us have known people who have struggled with losing their faith and we know that what they went through is real.
Can you see what religion does to your brain? Is this how God works? Blame you for your doubt? Would he pull this kind of vile victim shaming? My conscience pricks me when I do something wrong, and also commends me when I go the extra mile for somebody…. How stupid is this? You think God created himself to make himself a sacrifice to himself for the sins he created. I would easily to the same thing for less, like say saving World hunger or preventing all childhood cancer. Especially if I knew it would just be a bad weekend and a bunch of pain to go thru. Especially knowing that I get to live in my fathers kingdom with the keys at hand.
No biggie. If I only commit one sin, like lying, but I am perfect otherwise, then I get the same eternal sentence as a mass murderer or adulterer or thief. How is that justice? In fact was a virgin at marriage because I was so committed to Jesus, etc. I went to Promise Keepers, I was an elder at church. I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more Isaiah But according to the propaganda, your god is merciful.
Therefore evil does go unpunished. Christian theology is a Get of Hell Free card for any evil. Christian evil goes unpunished. Did you not know that? Or Islam? Or others? It denies that truth can be known. Upon what basis do you judge truth, Bob? There is nothing wrong with admitting uncertainty. Being certain of something with no good evidence is evidence of Dunning-Kruger Syndrome. The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. For instance it only took me once to learn that flame is quite hot and will cause pain.
Knowing that, I worked out that other quite hot things will cause pain. It is a matter of whether my interpretation of the evidence is correct, which is probably what you meant. Some tests I use are to determine if it is objective, do others see it as I do. If the evidence is described by others, are they reliable, what might they have to lose by not being truthful. If there are no others involved, is it a physical thing or just a mental thing, am I getting a complete sensory input, are my senses impaired?
I started out without knowing anything about evidence but I learned to work out things about temperature, pressure, sounds, vision, smells, tastes. I have learned how things interact from empirical observation enhanced by the study of others who describe how things interact and why.
Nobody knows all things but God. That is. He is the only trustworthy basis if absolute truth. What is your own basis for absolute truth? First you have to show that your god exists before you can assign attributes to it. The only people arrogant enough to claim absolute truth exists are the religious and a few politicians.
If one does not acknowledge the existence of absolute truth, he has no truth at all and it is useless to discuss anything further with him. OK, for arguments sake I will acknowledge the existence of absolute truth. Now show how the truth you are asserting concerning God, specifically the Christian God, has anything to do with absolute truth. The man who has no defense for his claim of objective moral truth is now arguing absolute truth?
Are you going to defend that, or do we just have to trust you that it exists? All you have is what you imagine it to be. If you do, then tell me the six numbers that will be drawn in the MegaMillions lottery on October 23, If the combination gets all six numbers and that you provide them with sufficient time for me to purchase the ticket, I will donate a million dollars divided by however many winning tickets there are to the charity of your choice, If not, you owe me two dollars.
I would be impressed if you could give me one combination that I played for the October 16, drawing. I think that I think, therefore I am. I could be a subroutine in the Matrix or a dream of Vishnu. Everything else is probabilistic. Shall we start with a simple trivia competition, or can you maybe get your god to show up for a boxing match? Marcus must do what Elijah did against the priests of Baal and you get to use the benefits of science.
The winner gets a steak cooked to order and the loser must eat Steak Tartare. Uh, yeah. How about you? Does that not apply? What you should wonder about is why your loving god invented it. Sure, be a presuppositionalist like Markus and just declare that your views are inherently correct with no need to justify them further. It is a lot less work and mess that way. We have been told that the soul is what has free will and that free will requires the possibility of sin, then there must be free will in heaven and the possibility of sin.
We have been told that angels have been cast out of heaven because of sin, so that is confirmed. If humans are evil and sin everyday, then getting to heaven will be a short-term experience. If hell is on a first-come, first-served basis then the first ones there will be able to find the slightly cooler places while Christians who start in heaven will end up in hell to claim the hotter regions. Just a minor variation in temperature will result in significantly more suffering over trillion year periods. That there are cultists by the zillions who explicitly condone torture in their waking minds making war crimes look like playground bullying is disturbing.
Now that I think about it, a memory surfaced. It was her way to politely inform me, a practicing Catholic then, not to bring up religion with her. To think of all the time and energy wasted on these phantoms. It may or may not affect cultist minds, that hell-lust, but it does affect others. I think he has shown all the visible evidence he has. The rest is in the damaged portion of his brain.
Lol do you even see the contradiction? Man is evil. God tolerates man. One of those statements must not be true. Hi, Eric. God created man good but gave him the ability to obey or not obey him, with the warning that disobedience would result in spiritual death. Man chose, freely, to disobey, becoming evil. This is why we suffer now in a fallen world. Physical illness, physical death and all the suffering we experience are the consequence. And we will be judged when we die.
The story is not over. God will write the last chapter. Does that mean that someone made that choice for me? If so, I fail to see why I should bear any moral responsibility for that choice. Shall the creature tell his Creator what is fair? Will God be limited to Western thoughts of individuality? God says that when Adam rebelled, we rebelled. And we prove it to be true when we show our complete inability to keep his moral laws. Yeah… No. The truth is that we have no choice over many things. We have no choice as to when or where we are born, our sex or the color of our skin, whether we are born to good parents or bad, and whether we are born into wealth or poverty.
While I accept the truths of the Bible, and have been born again by the Spirit if God, I still live in a fallen body with a fallen mind. I still am prone to hate God and my neighbor. Honestly, knowing how holy God is and how sinful I am is uncomfortable. I would, in my human nature, prefer that God just fix everything and eliminate sin and suffering. But I know that he is God and his will is different than mine. I know that my mind and heart prefer idols and not the true God. You are not allowed to ask questions.
Any doubt you feel is automatically blamed on a sinful nature, which to this ex-christian, is an imaginary concept. Your natural sense of moral and intellectual thinking are bound and gagged by that little clause. Stories that people tell. One morphing god among countless morphing gods invented by humans.
And impossible to converse about your basis for those beliefs. All you want to do is preach. You are talking to many ex-christians here. We know the story. Susan, I am not bereft of a mind. My faith is not blind but is accompanied by intellectual assent. While I believe that there it is evidence that exhorts and encourages me, I do not believe it is why I have faith because the Bible makes it clear that my faith is a gift of God. Because I believe that the Bible is foundational truth, my worldview has been shaped by it. I once thought that evidence was sufficient for conversion and it shaped my apologetics.
As my understanding of scripture has grown, I have come to understand the true source of my faith as God. God is not physical but spiritual. He is transcendent. That is, his truths transcend the material world. You ask why I believe. As a former atheist I can attest that it was not the discovery of evidence that caused my conversion. I can tell you, for example, that I became disatisfied with my prior conclusions about God derived by my studies in science. I could tell you that I became increasingly convicted of transcendental truths such as goodness, virtue, justice, integrity and beauty.
But these were merely my subjective and personal experience that accompanied my salvation. I could tell you that I became aware that the material world could no longer offer me any sound basis for truth. Experientially there was a time in which I was able to read the Bible with a new understanding that had formerly not been there. I now understand by the revelation of scripture that I was being reborn by the Holy Spirit. I am convinced by those same scriptures that i could no more facilitate my own conversion than I could change the courses of the planets in the solar system.
I was dead, spiritually, but God gave me life. Until they repent and trust in Christ, my presentation will simply be rejected. Further I will have done wrong to my Lord by making a mortal his judge. To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is false, while to say of what is that it is, and of what is not that it is not, is true. A friend was following in another car where I had left my prepared speech tucked away in a folder. While in traffic and the pouring rain we were separated no cell phones.
I began to pray. So as I continued in the traffic and rain, I began to slowly and calmly repeat the Scripture over and over. I kept at it till I arrived in the area with about 10 minutes to spare. Then I noticed my friend turning from across the street to where I was. We both arrived at the same time! A car park had spaces available and so we parked and went running across the street to the building. There was absolutely no way I could have done this at all had it not been for prayer and the Word of God. Not just the presentation, which would have been nerve wracking enough, but more importantly in holding me together so peacefully.
It reminds me that once again that when praying, make sure to pray the Word. Glory to God. I can so relate. A couple of years ago I started having an anxiety disorder it was a year after my baby and I got into a car accident. I think it was post-traumatic stress disorder. It was the worst thing I ever went through…not the accident itself, but the anxiety disorder!! Eventually this showed me just how much this was not from Him. The enemy wants so badly to take away our peace, our faith, our trust in God. He will do whatever he can to do that…whisper things to make us worry, tell us lies and torment us.
For shoes, put on the peace that comes from the Good News so that you will be fully prepared. It was awful living as a slave to those things. If you would like to write more about it—how God showed up for you and your baby—please let me know. Would love to read a guest post like that. I have felt a great calm over me reading all these verses. God has been so good to me. I thank him so much for the gift of life and always being there. I have terrible stress and anxiety and still working on it.
But knowing how much God our Father loves us that he gave his only son to die for out sins makes you know how much he loves you. Thank you God for your power to overcome! As everything in our life changes, swirls and blows in the wind, God stays the same — solid and true. His promises endure. I just started dealing with anxiety. It is such torment in my life. I found your website and I am now using scriptures to try and calm myself down during an attack.
Thanks for your post. I have really bad attacks to. I do not know how i got them. I deal with them everyday for the past five months. I am a christian and do attend church even with my anxiety attacks. I have prayed,cried,read bible tried about everything. I know God is going to heal me but in his time. But it seems i can not get know where. Are there something am doing wrong or what. I was told when there is no more then you can do is to stand. Its so hard. Am tried of living in this sickness that satin put on me.
I did to break free. So be praying for me and Ill do the same for you. God bless you all. I keep picking back up and try to handle it on my own. Today this changes!!! I am trust in the lord and letting the worry and fretting go. God bless you! Hi- My name is Amy. I am having to find a new Doctor after going to my current Doctor for 16 years. But I am still feeling so overwhelmed that I am crippled by fear. There is a lot more that I could go into, but I am afraid that someone will recognize me here on this site and I will get into trouble.. Thank you…. Hi Amy, thanks for sharing here.
Is your fear that you when you find a new doctor people in the new office will be rude to you? I cling to those words at times; once I even wrote them on a small piece of paper and carried it with me to read in a certain situation. From a practical, everyday perspective, I have moved quite a few times over the years and have gone to many different doctors but overall have had great experiences!
Maybe this change will be good? I hope you are OK and not in a dangerous situation. He can put things in perspective like we can never do on our own… especially through his Living Word! Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints. KC — Thank you for your comment.
Thinking about it like this has also helped: Would God send this spirit of confusion and sickness and torment upon me? It is coming from somewhere else; somewhere that is not of God. Having had personal experience with anxiety in the past, I know how it can stop you in your tracks, and yet God makes us as surefooted as a deer psalm When this feeling comes over you, command it to flee in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Use the very words God has give to you against the attack:. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
Cling to Him. Stay in HIS Word. Nothing — no man, spirit or principality of darkness can win over the plan of the Lord Jesus Christ as He has already beat death. Remember His promise to you! Though, its not as serious as some other things I have so much on my plate and I found this website today and I really hope it can help me.
My dad is sort of an alcoholic and hes a little bit crazy i accidentally deleted an extremely important message off his phone. Please help! Thank you for the scripture reading some of then help ease my heart, I know that God is always in control. Thought: Do you have an adult nearby who can help you relay the message to your dad in a safe way?
It might be a good idea to plug in to a youth group near your house where you can get wise counsel as well as get together with friends your age who love the Lord. Keep seeking God and praying for his protection, Emily. He answers us! First — I want to say thank you so much for this post Jennifer it has been truly helpful!
I have struggled with anxiety since the age of 5 and I am now With my anxiety I get really nausea and a lot of times I end up getting sick. It is so hard dealing with this and recently I have turned to God for help. I have given my anxiety to him and have asked him to help me and guide me during this time. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone dealing with this, may God give us the strength and courage to get through this. Its like you wright my life and I am so greatfull that I overcome anxiaty and fear 7 years ago I still batle but known what to do known.
Thank you for this post. I had no clue that a customer gave me way more money than she needed too. I told my boss that I believe that the money belongs to her, she said we have a week to correct the situation, but she informed me that she wanted to see what my other boss wanted to do. I shall rest tonight knowing that he has already worked this all out on my behalf. I just started a new school, and the anxiety and stress I have is terrible. Liz — Amen sister! You just want to share it with anyone who will listen, right? Ignatius Loyola. LeeLee — Thanks for your openness and honesty about your work situation.
God is in control, and we also have free will. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. Pray that God convicts your heart to do the right thing. It gives you peace that can only come from Him that so many people seek. This is such an encouraging post.. It was really the worst thing that i ever went through. Though it hard at first, i read bible verses and prayed and put my life wholly in His care.
My favourite bible verse during those times and still is Psalms I just really wanted to share that. May the Lord bless us all. Thank you for the wonderful scriptures. I, myself, have been battling this sickness off and on for years. I went off my meds over 2 years ago but the past few months have been a real struggle for me. My Dr. I too can only pray and hope I can beat this! Prayers for all you of too! I have honestly always been embarrassed to tell anyone of my anxiety but I thank you all for making me feel not alone!
Please disregard the very very long comment I just submitted today. I happened upon this website by accident and I read through a few of the posts and responded to them rather quickly. I responded without reading what you were asking people to submit at the the top of the page: When has the Lord helped you overcome worry? How did it turn out. Thank you! I have been worrying for quite some time. My husband and I recently reconciled after being separated for 6 months. He then left for work for 2 months and we rekindled and had a nice anniversary this past weekend.
He is now at a bachelor party in Miami and I am freaking out with worry. He told me not to worry but I did the most horrible thing. We are both very insecure because of the separation. I need him now to fix this situation and to allow me to turn to him during this time, trusting that God will bring my husband home and that we will get past this argument.
As of right now, my husband is back to not speaking to me. Please Lord God be with him, protect him and watch over him. And Lord please allow me to repent to you for not turning to you this past weekend as much as I should have. I feel horrible. Please Lord help save this marriage. Please allow me to trust in you and not lean on my own understanding. Please ease my worry. Please allow my husband and I to get back on solid ground before he comes home.
I want him to have a nice time and not blame me for things while he is gone. Please be with us. Please allow this forgiveness. Please father. It is am and after not being able to sleep due to great anxiety and fear over everything that seems to come to mind I arose and came out to my couch and opened my bible and began reading the bible and prayed that The Lord would deliver me from my anxiety, worry, and fear that I deal with daily and now has come to a point where it effects every part of my day and my health.
I think I am and pray and ask God to help me trust Him more but I am still struggling. I believe there is power in prayer so I ask for your prayer that I may overcome this thru Jesus Christ who gives me strength. I want to be free from this once and for all. Thank you for your words above and the scripture and references that I can meditate on. I know I am not alone in this and pray for all who struggle daily with the same thing and pray they will be set free from this terrible sickness. God bless! Thank you for the verses!!!
This site is amazing!! So glad i came across it. I too now suffer from fear anxiety, and panic attacks. And since that day, i have been scared to drive because the fear of having another one while driving alone. Everytime i hear someone die, it puts fear in me too. I feel fear and anxiety comes from the enemy, and if he knows you are afraid of something, he will keep it in you mind and conscious.
But prayer and faith in God brings us through. I dont do half the things i use to do anymore like clubbing all the time, dating multiple guys, etc.. Or have the same friends like i use to. I just feel like God is working on me and testing my faith.. And i believe him. This too shall pass. About September of this year I was about 19 weeks pregnant,is when this panic attack occured and has caused ongoing constant anxiety, my fifth pregnancy. I have a daughter Clara to turn 3 on the 21 of December, she is my only child I have.
My very first I had back in , we gave him up for adoption as it seemed the best option at that time. Then in Jan. Got pregnant shortly after she passed but miscarried at 12 weeks. It started at 19 weeks pregnant and I took a cymbalta and it caused me to have a panic attack, before the pregnancy was on zoloft did fine with it So they tried that again did same panic attack, then recently because of the constant ongoing anxiety they tried lexapro and same panic attack with suicidal thoughts.
I pray every night for the Lord to take this anxiety away, but I am so afraid of something going wrong with this labor as the last one I almost died due to blood loss, or something wrong with this baby, and I am sure there is a lot more on my mind. I have not taken medication since the lexapro, but I am afraid I might need something I am just so scared please help! Since have had constant anxiety so recently they stuck me on lexapro did same thing with suicidal thought. I have preaey. Thank you all for these verses. Nancy, I thought I was the only one who felt that way during the evening hours, I do have my sister who helps me out during these difficult times.
My faith has had its ups and downs, when I was growing up I was very active in church with my family, until their faith took a turn and we stopped going to church or worshiping and might not have let the best lives we could. I still continued going to church with friends of mine from school, but I changed a lot in my teenage years and felt a lot of rebellion and anger inside me caused by people who hurt me at a young age. I was in a dark place for a teenager and after a few years, I came out of it. After I went through high school, started working, and started taking care of myself for the most part, I definitely felt better but my anxiety came back with failed relationships and friendships.
Now, 2 years later, I have still struggled with internal stress and fear every day. I am a sensitive girl who lets everything and everyone get to her. I have felt really alone, between my psychical health as well as my emotional health. I try hard every day to keep my faith and to be there for others. I have a nurturing, mothering sense and I love to take care of my nephew and watch him grow and learn. He is 2 and a half and some of the best times the past few years were with him. I find that he calms me down so much, even though he is a crazy little guy, and he makes me happy when I am having those days where I am feeling really lonely and lost.
His innocence and his smile just help to remind me what beauty God created, and then I remember that I have to just keep going. I always want to take care of and help everyone so that they are happy, that sometimes I forget to do that for myself, which is why I find myself with anxiety and sadness a lot, but lately I have remembered more that God is there for me no matter what.
My grandma is the exception she is a wonderful christian and has such a big heart for everyone. We have a great relationship and I am so thankful for that.
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Writing and photography were too things that always stuck with me as a hobby but also much more than that. They are ways for me to express how I feel and how to capture my thoughts and the world around me. The beauty of humans and animals and nature, with all of their pieces and parts and organs…its just amazing and another way that my faith keeps growing during dark times. Thank you for this website Jennifer.
My anxiety has been for many years and is frequently about my children who are adults. My son is now 42 and my daughter is Training brainwaves into efficient patterns allows the central nervous system to learn how to self-regulate, directing it away from debilitating, painful, destructive disorders into effortless processing and optimal functionality.
So, I had my brain mapped in a painless 12 minute procedure and then had the first treatment which was 30 minutes. I plan to return because it was helpful. Last night I slept soundly for the first time in years and woke up refreshed. Tonight the anxiety came over me again and I found your website. It has helped me so much to feel included in your community and to be comforted by your words and the word of God. Thank you so much.
God has shown me that He is bigger than anything, and in many ways, I feel like suffering with anxiety in the past has helped me trust Him even more in the present, since whenever I even start to feel nervous, I know where to turn. Dealing with anxiety is such a solo thing… it can feel lonely and frightening, mostly because no one outside of you can relate to how you are feeling exactly. Learning the Word of God and continuing to read it, study it, pray on it, talk about it — that has shown me the answers to pulling things out of us—things that need to go—by the roots.
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The answer is God. He created us. He transforms and changes us. He saves us. He sent His son to take on that burden for us so we can have life. But we have to give it to Him trust Him! And then going to bible study and learning his word and reading a bible I could understand there are different versions. And meeting other Christians who were filled with the spirit and who instead of offering worldly judgment and short-term advice, offered prayer and friendship.
God tells us the answers. He gives them to us. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. I am applying for graduate school and I think I have a good chance getting in. One of the things that I am concerned about is a grade that is incorrect on my transcript. Now, i am scared that the grade will keep me from getting into this grad program that will open up so many doors for me.
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I am happy I found this site the stories are encouraging. Emily, I hope this post finds you well. My dad was also an alcoholic. I would agree that you should find an adult that you can talk to and who will go with you to talk to your father when you are scared to do so. If your mother is around, and is not enabling his habit, perhaps you can talk to her. Also, joining a youth group as someone suggested is a good idea also. I just wanted to thank Jennifer I know God gets all the glory for this article. The verses and the links to other articles has helped me tremendously. I have not had this kind of anxiety for years and your articles are where God directed me and the verse He had you choose where a blessing to me.
May God bless you and yours. So that we may find comfort in times of anxiety. I pray for all these people tonight struggling with stress and worry…. We love you Lord! Not only did i have anxiety about my thoughts, but also about facing the world. I try breathing exercises, and meditation techniques. They really helped, but i felt like i was searching for something more. I talked to family members and it also seemed to help but i still started getting anxiety.
Not only was i scared, worried and sad, but i was angry at god. After reading that the lord knows everything that will happen and what you will go through in life. Soon i will be getting test and blood work to see what may be the matter. I soon started to here a voice talking to me that always calmed me down.
My aunt started getting her church to pray for me and, me and my mom would pray to. He wants to ruin me. I now know that with the help of god that not only is he in my heart but i am starting to walk with him and have FAITH! I know that i may get these thoughts and feelings of anxiety but i will have hope faith and trust in god and my self to help and i love to read these versus now everyday.
Thank you Lord for this page that I just found. Ok here is what Im going through. For the past 6 month I started to experience constant dizziness and anxiety attacks. I would go to Dr office they will give me a pills to take but it will make my symptoms worse. So i go back to work and here it came again those attacks so I go back to Dr office and they will give me something else but again no help. After several month trying the Dr took me out for 2 weeks and put me on Xanax and it calm me down but I felt like after only 2 weeks I was depending on them. After 2 weeks out he send me back to work but the xanax would calm me down to much and i could not function with that in the system so after trying to be at work and could not i called the Dr and he refer me to you guess it a Psiciatrist.
He kept me on Xanax and another pill. I am not a pill taker I just hate putting pills in my body but if this was to help so let give it a try. Even though they were calming me down i still felt that the pill would not take care of the root cause. I prayed my family prayed my Pastor prayed. Charles Stanley. After listening to his message it was clear to me that it was time to stop the pills and rely on the power of God. After a week of really sleepless night because I was not taking the pills I finally was able to start sleeping.
I am still out of work and feel dizzy and have been without any income due to issues of paper work between my dr and insurance company but I am trusting God to deliver me from this mental problem and like Dr Charles Stanley said is a faith battle. You have to trust God that he will take the Anxiety away. This is the verse he provided. Phillipians 4 I ask for your prayers and I believe there will be Victory over Anxiety. God Bless and thank you for your encouragement.
I, Too, have been struggling with severe anxiety. It has affected my work, personal and family life. It is very debilitating and consuming. Most of my anxiety is centered around health issues that do not even exist. Now that I am a mother, I am full of worries. I started doing a faith-based counseling service a few weeks ago. I wanted that rock, aka God. My other problem is that I am in grad school to become a behavior analyst so I over-analyze everything just by nature even though I know I should not lean on my own understanding.
I know I just need to have patience, but this anxiety is awful and I just want to experience joy again. However, by the grace of God I have been able to put one foot in front of the other every day and feel better than I did a month ago, but there are still so many triggers that send me into a downward spiral.
My baby boy turns 2 tomorrow and I just want to enjoy this special weekend with him without the constant fears and worry. I have always dreamed of working at this nice bank. It was impossible to get there. So the dream was just there. Floating, always just a dream, never really expecting anything. Although i persistently applied online for years. In sep lo and behold, i was asked to take the exam, and last january, i was called in for an interview. It was all so surreal. And in feb, i got pre-offer.
I claimed it, God will let me transfer to that bank anytime soon. All this is by his grace. I claimed it. I am so near. I just need the favorable evaluation of my character references and then they will give the formal offer. But i am so worried now, because my current supervisor, who needs to provide my evaluation, is angry at my leaving. If not fail the evaluation, she will delay it.
She is like that, the mean boss. The power tripping kind of boss. And i am sinning because i should not be anxious. I should trust God, delight in him. He is in charge here. My boss is now always angry at me, looking for faults and acting like a brat. And it stresses me all the more. I think she will do everything for me to just get stuck in my current work the way she is stuck there. Can anyone be that evil? I have 3 kids, this job will help a lot. I know god will not allow her meanness to prevail, right? God wont let her jeopardize His plans for me, right?
I ask forgiveness from god for doubting. I just cant help but worry coz i am sooo near to that dream, soooo near already, and it is just her who stands in my way…. Wow Jennifer I can so relate to what you wrote. When we take in into ourselve He gets into us. I do have trouble in this heartless world where many are evil and ruthless.
We have to live here and it rubs off onto us. So, the answer is to stay in the Word and believe with your heart and it will transform you. Tom and Linda — Thank you for dropping by! Praying for you! Jeff — Thanks for your update; we will keep you in our prayers and post your request on the GoingByFaith facebook page. Battling anxiety and worry in faith means holding on to the truth, over and over again however long the battle lasts.
Andrea — I totally understand you. Whenever I feel like my nerves could take over a good time a birthday party, etc. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not Do not tremble, do not be afraid. No, there is no other Rock; I know not one. He is greater. He has the power to save. Thanks for sharing this truth. And I do agree if you choose to keep going and do what must be done, that feeling of anxiety will go away.
You just need to put away those negative thoughts out of your mind. Also believing that things will go better, it will, for the Lord desires us to triumph over fear. Because trusting Him will push us with courage and faith to make it. I really enjoyed reading and reflecting on this article. I have found strength and determination from this read. Thank you for presenting. God Bless. Thanks a lot Jennifer for sharing this…. You had written this in the year and I am reading this in , wonderful how God uses his people from the corners of the earth to be a blessing to one another. Please do keep me in your prayers as I go through a situation which i wont define as a ugly but it is really good that you did, as it connected very well to me but as an opportunity of increasing my faith….
What a blessing. This is wonderful and an encouragement to me because that is how I see it today. It is an opportunity to turn to God in suffering. Thanks for this. I wake up with nausea,have bouts of extreme hunger or nausea and feel panicky. I am trying to trust in God — spending time daily listening and singing to worship music, praying, sharing encouragement to others on facebook. Something within me keeps pushing me not to give up — I will declare victory in Jesus name!
You are right to never give up! I can relate to what you wrote and felt that way many times myself. I love this quote from C. They are afflictions, not sins. Like all afflictions, they are, if we can so take them, our share in the Passion of Christ. Please pray for me and my grandson… we are in a custody battle to keep him being around an un-safe enviroment.
God has told me that I will have a praise report. Please pray.. Heavy Heart, Renee. Thanks Renee…that kind of worry is totally understandable. I am praying for you even tonight and also wondering why tonight and not three years ago. God bless you. I am so glad to read this. I am praying so hard for my son right now, and for him to have peace and resolution to a very serious situation that will allow him to grow and move beyond his circumstances.
I fear and worry about what battles might be ahead of him, and of us as a family. I am asking that you please pray for us — mostly for him. Please also pray for the other family connected to his problems. May we all find grace and peace very soon, and may we all be able to move forward without the fear of the unknown and this horrible problem hanging over us. Please pray that I can find peace and meaning in this soon. Carrying an extremely heavy heart. This gives me a heavy heart to read, and without knowing the details, God does. My mom was diagnosed with cancer and at first I was good stayed in prayer and felt peace, but recently I have negative thoughts and tons of anxiety.
I know God has everything under his control but I just want to feel it. If anyone read this please say a prayer for my mom so that she gets through this. GOD bless. I love the verses about trusting God n have faith on him every day. When i have problems God is there like a best friend n cleaning my tears with his precious hand i love these incredible God that he doesnt live me. Thank you so much for the encouraging words. I felt really lost and confused just now but thank God for His words in this time of troubles.
Im praying and trying to get all negative thoughts out of my mind to trust that God is in control and He will turn the situation around. Here is something hopeful, Im remembering back to when I was in early school, 6 or 5, when I brought a favourite toy from my house to show and tell. As I made my way on to the bus that afternoon after school I found that I had lost the poor toy somewhere at school and it was not on my person, neither in my book bag nor in any pocket I had. I was deeply despaired, me and my sister loved that toy and it would be sorely missed.
Ive always had a deep sadness whenever witness to loss in potential, and I was over come with grief inside. While boarding the bus, I thought hard about how the situation could be solved. My Dad had always told me that praying to God whenever I felt any kind of stress and asking Him to take on my burden would surely have me saved, so I did just that. I thought about it and took it a step further.
I said a short prayer in my head that God have Dudley found and brought back to me and my family, knowing that even if Dudley were not found, I would still be protected from the despair. I truly tried to honor Our Father in my words, I tried not to think about Dudley. I got home and began to tell my Mom about my day while getting situated in the house. Thanks be to God. I know this may sound silly, but now, as an adult I still can remember, and feel a lot of stress go away.
Awww, such a sweet story! Thank you for sharing that Geoff, and may God bless you. Thank you for this promises. Really needed it at the moment. My family lost our mother three years ago. Dad is recently planning to remarry and us kids are so filled with fear and anxiety of the future and what it holds. We are claiming these promises and committing the unknown future to a God who is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and allowing Him to take control of what comes our way. God is good i believe that. Anxiety will not take control of my life for the lord is with me and he will lead me to greater things.
I was sitting aat home talking to myself till I googled for reaadings on how to overcome confusion stress and anxiety and came across this page… Praise th Lord.
Throughout my life there has beesn a lot of turmoil. I grew p in a happy home for a while and had all I desired even my siblings were jealous at times as was I of them also. My dad left us. I remember that day. For some reason I didint go to school and my dad insisted I stay. He waited for everyone to leave. I went into the main bedroom where I found him packinng a suitcase. He asked me to help and I remeber handing him his sweater it was my favourite it was an aramis white sweater. He told me he was going away for a while and he would be back soon and told me he would always be intouch.
I watched my dad leave that day with all hope he wold be back soon. Days went by months and years… A lot was going wrong things I never could never understand as a child. Our furniture would get repossesed and we had to move houses a lot. My dad had moved to south africa he woukd call from time to time and we even visited he would tell us all was ok and nake it seem as though my mum was in the wrong as I never understood why she was always angry….
Ooh I got into all sorts of trouble and my could bearly keep up with us! Our 1st born fell pregnant and moved out to stay with her then boyfriend she said it was to get away from it all. It was tough even the teachers asked how many houses we have with the cahnge of address every other month.. I was sixteen just finished my exams and found out — was pregnant.
The guy I thought loved me told me to go to hell. Through all that time it all made sense. My mum was left with us and my dad had left her with a lot of debt and the time my dad was arrested when we wre kids was cause of fraudulent stuff. Which explained all the lavish stuff we used to get. It was hard on my mum people would talk and gossip but she kept moving. God is real he is there and the reason I say this is because there were times the most hardest and difficult but he saw us through. When my angel was 3 I met the most amazing man who embraced me and my flaws we were together for 5 years and we broke up coz of distance he had to go back overseas but he still helps where he can as he loves my kid as his own despite our diufferences….
Now at 30 am in south africa with a valid permit have a job that I do not like. Have applied to so many other places and been rejected. My daughter goes to high school next year and what I earn is bearly enough. I thank God still everyday He watches over all of us and always makes a way. Delay is not denial and patience and faith will work.. My mum was recently retenched and she is the one who looks after my daughter. It just got worse and the anxiety and stres sucked me in even more. She tells me not to worry and tells me whwen in doubt pray… She drops my daughter off at scool and picks her up.
I send all I can from time to time. I could write a whole book about my life which I dubbed from riches to rags.. And after reading this I can truly say our Saviour will deliver us and redeem us…! I know its a long story but I have a lot more to share. But thank you for all the readings and I will continue praying for truth strength annd favor. I am not the every sunday church goer but I trully believe in our 4avoiur and Creator…. Friends I thought were true turned on me.
At times I feel like packing up and giving up. But I know God has a paln for me.
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